This fall when I renovated my bed, I finally took out the rosemary. I knew it was big and taking up way more space than it should. However, I had NO idea how big it was until we put it in the wheelbarrow! (Thanks Jack for helping me get it out and giving it a good home.)
This plant had never really been babied, protected, or anything. It just got water and had never had a hair cut. Not even when it looked like it was going to die after the Polar Vortex hit it in February.
It is amazing how much "empty" space is in my bed now! Between removing it and the lavender, I got a 4 foot by 2 foot swath back - which is 1/4 of my bed. Ooopss.....
The moral to this story is - be ruthless! Remove any plant when it gets too big for the tiny space it is in, no matter how fond of it you are.
Vicki - Bed 41
Saturday, October 4, 2014
Saturday, September 27, 2014
Upcoming Cobb County Extension Events
The following events are available through Cobb County Extension.
Bluebird Trail Tour
Saturday, October 4, 10:00 a.m. –Noon. Free and open to the public. Cobb Master Gardener and Bluebird expert Jim Bearden will conduct a guided walk of the 2.3-mile Bluebird Trail at Green Meadow Preserve Park, at 3780 Dallas Hwy., Powder Springs, GA, 30127. Follow the Bluebird Trail blog at bluebirdtrail.blogspot.com.
Thyme to Read Book Club
Friday, October 10, 10:30 -11:30 a.m. Book club sponsored by Cobb County Master Gardeners will meet at the Training Room of the Cobb County Water lab, 662 South Cobb Drive (at the intersection with Atlanta Rd.). This month’s book is The Forgotten Garden, by Kate Morton. November’s book will be The Founding Gardeners, by Andrea Wulf. Schedule and information can be found at www.cobbmastergardeners.com. Free and open to the public.
Landscaping and Septic Tanks

Trees of Our Lives: Small Native Trees for the Landscape
Tuesday, October 14, 7:00-8:00 p.m. Presented by Master Gardener Dawn Hines, as part of the ongoing Gardeners Night Out presentation series of the Master Gardener Volunteers of Cobb County, at South Cobb Regional Library, 805 Clay Road, Mableton, 30126.
Friday, September 26, 2014
Free Onion Sets - Back by Popular Demand!
I thought it might be nice to kick off the official start of the fall season with some free onion sets. That's right; they're back by popular demand! Onions do so well at Green Meadows and are among the variety of crops requiring very little care and maintenance.
This wonderful member of the allium family is suitable for planting in either the spring or the fall. However, planting the sets in the fall will yield substantially larger bulbs vs. those that are planted in the spring.
Onions do well with all of the leafy greens and root crops. They are especially good neighbors for members of the brassica family, as they are known to repel many of the pests that affect these plants.
About the only bad companions are members of the legume family which includes your peas and beans and some references do make mention of sage. If legumes are in your plans for the spring and early summer, it is important to locate the onions in an area away from where you plan to put these.
Squirrels can become problematic at Green Meadows for digging them up so any defensive measures to prevent their actions will serve you well.
All three varieties in the shed are good for scallions and dry storage onions. They are also well suited to indoor growing. The link below is to the Old Farmer's Almanac with some nice planting tips and if we can do anything to help, just let us know. In raised garden beds, they can easily go 4 inches apart in all directions. It is important to note that the spacing between rows mentioned in the article is for those directly planting into the conventional garden.
http://www.almanac.com/plant/onions - link to The Old Farmer's Almanac.
Happy Fall,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Get them while they last! Fresh off the truck! |
This wonderful member of the allium family is suitable for planting in either the spring or the fall. However, planting the sets in the fall will yield substantially larger bulbs vs. those that are planted in the spring.
Onions do well with all of the leafy greens and root crops. They are especially good neighbors for members of the brassica family, as they are known to repel many of the pests that affect these plants.
About the only bad companions are members of the legume family which includes your peas and beans and some references do make mention of sage. If legumes are in your plans for the spring and early summer, it is important to locate the onions in an area away from where you plan to put these.
Squirrels can become problematic at Green Meadows for digging them up so any defensive measures to prevent their actions will serve you well.
All three varieties in the shed are good for scallions and dry storage onions. They are also well suited to indoor growing. The link below is to the Old Farmer's Almanac with some nice planting tips and if we can do anything to help, just let us know. In raised garden beds, they can easily go 4 inches apart in all directions. It is important to note that the spacing between rows mentioned in the article is for those directly planting into the conventional garden.
http://www.almanac.com/plant/onions - link to The Old Farmer's Almanac.
Happy Fall,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Monday, September 22, 2014
Building your soil and grub removal
I have been talking and emailing with Denise about soil building and she had some excellent advice I want to share with you. It was one of those AH HA! moments. Actually there were several AH HA!! moments because it explained things I was subliminally aware of not knowing (grin).
It has never been really clear in my head at what depth I should add the various soil amendments nor how to calculate how much to add back to the bed after I took out my tomato dirt.
What is tomato dirt?
That is the soil that was UNDER your tomato plants during the spring/summer gardening season. In a small 4' x 8' bed it is very difficult to rotate your vegetables very effectively to lower your disease pressure. To increase the chance of successfully growing tomatoes in the same bed the next year, we highly recommend you remove the tomato dirt and then plant the tomatoes at the opposite end of the bed. EVERY YEAR.
In the fall you are replacing the volume of the tomato dirt that was removed as well as replenishing soil nutrients. In the spring you are adding in amendments to replace the nutrients your plants used during the fall, winter and early spring. In other words, the amount you add in the spring is less than in the fall - usually.
What is tomato dirt?
That is the soil that was UNDER your tomato plants during the spring/summer gardening season. In a small 4' x 8' bed it is very difficult to rotate your vegetables very effectively to lower your disease pressure. To increase the chance of successfully growing tomatoes in the same bed the next year, we highly recommend you remove the tomato dirt and then plant the tomatoes at the opposite end of the bed. EVERY YEAR.
In the fall you are replacing the volume of the tomato dirt that was removed as well as replenishing soil nutrients. In the spring you are adding in amendments to replace the nutrients your plants used during the fall, winter and early spring. In other words, the amount you add in the spring is less than in the fall - usually.
What level your soil amendments should be incorporated:

If you are starting with one of the beds that has been half emptied out (see picture to the side), fill it with the bagged topsoil until there are only 4 inches remaining (after grub removal and sifting - see bottom of this post for link and why you want to do this). I would mix the bagged topsoil with the soil from the original bed so it is blended well before mixing in any amendments.
You are making a soil cake here and want all your ingredients well blended!
For the healthiest production from soil that provides nutrients on a constant and balanced level, it is important to consider a few different concepts when adding amendments and at what depth to add them.
1) Consider the root structures (the main and feeder roots) of what you will grow to make sure food will be readily available at all levels. For example - if you were growing radishes with short roots. If all your soil amendments were at a depth of 8 inches and below, the plant would be totally dependent on your fertilization practices above ground to thrive or the theory that your soil is already healthy and productive.
2) Consider your additions. For example, if you are adding items like leaves, coffee grounds and egg shells, they would be considered unfinished compost items. They need to be placed lower in the soil, closer to the reach of the earthworms. This will speed their decomposition into available nutrients deep within the soil so when the plant roots get there the food is readily available.
3) If soil life is already healthy, meaning full of life and visible activity (worms are excellent indicators), turning amendments into the top layers enhances the activity and appetite of earthworms, fungi, and bacteria. They will all work in harmony to take matter deep within the soil wherever it needs to go. Nutrients will then be readily available at all levels for healthy root development and balanced plant nutrition.
Gardeners Math, Part 1
How to calculate how much to add to build up your bed
Our gardening beds are 4' x 8' = 32 square feet.
Our gardening beds are 4' x 8' = 32 square feet.
To replace a third of the bed - you need 10.67 cubic feet of amendments
To replace a quarter of the bed - you need 8 cubic feet of amendments
Jungle Grow - 2 cubic feet
Mushroom Compost - 1.2 cubic feet
Black Kow Cow Manure - 1.2 cubic feet
Worm castings (entire bag from Pike's) - 1 cubic foot
Bag of Top Soil - 1 cubic feet
If you are building a bed from scratch you would need 21 bags to create your 8 inch base layer.

Chopped up leaves fluff the area up but don't keep much bulk in the bed after a couple of weeks. It just provides lots of good organic matter while decomposing and feeding the worms.
Coffee grounds and egg shells also don't provide much bulk but are very good additives because the worms utilize them. Whatever makes the worms happy, makes the plants happy.
If your soil has been depleted by heavy feeders you need to ramp up your additives to support growing tomatoes in the spring. And also so your fall and winter vegetables will do well. If your bed doesn't have many worms definitely add in the things that will make them happy because the more worms you have, the better your plants will do.
Compost Tea and Coffee grounds will help activate microbes and get your worms going in your bed before the cold weather arrives. This helps to build healthy soil which leads to healthy plants. Compost Tea and Coffee grounds are also known to repel some insects and grubs are listed as one of them in the book, Teaming with Microbes, by Jeff Lowenfels & Wayne Lewis.
Compost Tea and Coffee grounds will help activate microbes and get your worms going in your bed before the cold weather arrives. This helps to build healthy soil which leads to healthy plants. Compost Tea and Coffee grounds are also known to repel some insects and grubs are listed as one of them in the book, Teaming with Microbes, by Jeff Lowenfels & Wayne Lewis.
Jungle Grow - $6.98
Black Kow Cow Manure - $4.98
Mushroom Compost - $3.96
Worm Castings (20 lb bag) - $20.99
Worm Castings (20 lb bag) - $20.99
Top Soil -$1.29
Grub Removal:
We highly recommend you work on removing the grubs before filling or refilling your bed with dirt. It makes a world of difference. There is a reservoir of grubs in the first 2 to 3 inches of the red clay that the beds are sitting on. They WILL work their way up into the bed.
Also, if your bed has never been sifted and you plan on growing carrots, now is the time to do it when you have LESS dirt in the bed! If you just got a bed and you don't know if your bed has been sifted, just ask us. There is not a need for sifting amendments. However, if you notice any rocks or large particles from their processing, you will want to pick those out.
Here is link to a previous post on how to sift, what to look for and what equipment to use
http://greenmeadowscommunitygarden.blogspot.com/2014/02/what-is-sifting-soil.html
When I dug down through my bed and into the red clay area in Fall 2012, I found 110 grubs. I did it again Spring 2013 and only found 30 grubs. Each time I find fewer grubs moving up through my soil because I've cleared out my reservoir of resident grubs. Unfortunately, you will always have some grubs because you miss a couple and because new ones are "deposited". Denise's soil continues to remain grub free, with never more than a couple, through what we expect is due the use of compost tea on a regular basis.
Good luck building your soil for the fall/winter growing season!
Good luck building your soil for the fall/winter growing season!
Vicki & Denise
Wednesday, September 17, 2014
Walkingstick Insect
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Walkingstick Insect |
We can determine that this particular walkingstick is a male due to the pinchers located on the rear end. The male uses these pinchers to clasp and hold the abdomen of a female while they breed. Mating can last anywhere from several hours to over a day. Yikes!
The female of the species is one of the few insects that are able to produce unfertilized eggs (if no male is encountered) that will hatch and grow into other females. The eggs resemble tiny seeds and most often, she will either hide them in places that are very hard to get to or drop them one by one on the ground over a scattered area. Scattering them is her natural born instinct to keep predators from finding the eggs all in one place.
Much like a mantis, the walkingstick wears its skeleton on the outside of its body. Their bones are unable to grow like ours and when the insect grows, the exoskeleton is shed and replaced by a new and roomier version. They also have the ability to regenerate a lost limb and some in the species can even shoot a liquid to blind their predators when encountered. It will take a walkingstick several molts to reach the size we see here on the shed door.
If you look closely at the head of the insect, you will see that he has extended his two front legs out parallel to his antennae. This is a defense mechanism of the walkingstick to appear larger than it is and assist in its ability to mimic a twig through camouflage. Many times you will also see them swaying as if they were moving with the breeze offering them one of the best natural camouflages and defenses we find in nature.
This little fella is completely natural to our area and will not cause any harm in the garden. It has been a while since we have heard that one! While they are night feeding herbivores eating a diet of plant leaves, their appetite prefers the leaves of brambles, deciduous trees and shrubs, with a preference to oaks and hazelnuts. If found in the garden they can be left alone, although they may nibble a little, gently moved to the edge of the woods, or placed on a tree to send them on their way.
There are over 3,000 species of the stick insect and while not on the endangered list, walkingsticks do suffer from habitat destruction, pesticide use, and their collection for the pet trade.
A big thank you goes out to Lyndsay for pointing out this most interesting bug!
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Wednesday, September 10, 2014
Free Seeds - Radishes/Carrots
Chinese Watermelon Radishes |
This particular type of radish grows to the size of golf balls without any loss of flavor or quality. They should be spaced on three to four inch centers in all directions to allow for their size and growth habit.
The pods need to be shelled to obtain the seeds inside and each pod does contain several seeds.

As if this weren't enough, I noticed the picnic table also has some freebies. Vann has been so kind to share some seeds for her Chinese Red Noodle beans and there are some extra collards there as well. It's like Christmas in September!
Hope you enjoy,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Wednesday, September 3, 2014
Spotlight on Something Unique - White Satin Carrots!
White Satin carrots from Denise's garden this past April. |
History shows carrots as originating in Afghanistan and initially being purple, white, or yellow. Nature took its course, wild varieties crossbred, and many mutations of colors were born. During the 15th century Europeans mainly grew the white carrots for cattle feed. Today we find them hybridized into gourmet varieties and happily at home in many gardens throughout the world.
Without the presence of any pigmentation in their roots, white carrots tend to have a very smooth and rich flavor. They still contain the desired health promoting substances called phytochemicals, which are the naturally occurring compounds that protect the body against disease. However, if one were comparing white carrots to their orange counterparts, those with color would have a higher presence of these disease fighting compounds within them. There is a link below to the World's Healthiest Foods website that has a very nice write up on carrots. It will have us all saying, "What's Up Doc?"
White Satin carrot tops |
White Satin is easily appreciated for its ability to grow well at Green Meadows without the presence of pest and disease issues in either the spring or fall. Last winter, with the unexpected weather conditions, it performed the best out of any of the carrots I grew. Overwintering was easy and as soon as the days lengthened to where the plants could photosynthesize again, they happily finished their growth cycle. I planted carrot seeds the second and third week of September and they finished their growth the last week of April and the first week of May.
Green Meadows Healthy Garden Tip:
Carrots are one of the crops at Green Meadows that do extremely well with either spring or fall plantings. Rarely do we find any issues with insects or disease although aphids can become a problem if neglected when they strike. The key to success with their growth is well prepared soil, proper spacing, even moisture, and nutrients rich in potassium and phosphorous. Keeping nitrogen to a minimum will reduce forking and overly hairy roots. Both planting alongside something from the allium family or very light dustings with wood ashes are excellent measures for preventing carrot rust flies. These flies lay their eggs in the top of the soil around your plants. Upon hatching, the larva, or maggots, tunnel into the soil and then feed on the carrot roots rendering them inedible. Avoiding any excess moisture at harvest time prevents the roots from cracking.
Most carrots planted this time of year will need to overwinter and finish their growth cycle next spring as the ground temperatures warm, the days lengthen, and the plants have the ability to photosynthesize again. This makes it important to have a garden plan in place that allows their longevity in the soil with good plant companions. For those that hope to have some carrots for the fall and winter holidays, choosing an early maturing variety that requires less growth time or baby carrots is your best option.
Most carrots planted this time of year will need to overwinter and finish their growth cycle next spring as the ground temperatures warm, the days lengthen, and the plants have the ability to photosynthesize again. This makes it important to have a garden plan in place that allows their longevity in the soil with good plant companions. For those that hope to have some carrots for the fall and winter holidays, choosing an early maturing variety that requires less growth time or baby carrots is your best option.
Links:
The first link below is for those who would like to read about the additional health benefits of carrots. It will take you to the website of the World's Healthiest Foods, which has a nice article posted.
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=21 - link to the World's Healthiest Foods carrot page
The seeds for this wonderful variety are easy to find and the two sites below usually have them readily available. I will also have some extra seeds in the shed either this weekend or the first of next week for those who may want to enjoy and try their hand at overwintering.
http://www.territorialseed.com/product/White_Satin_Carrot_Seed/carrot_seed - link to Territorial Seed Company
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-7094-white-satin-f1.aspx - link to Johnny's Seed Company
The last link is to Cornell University. Cornell has one of the most comprehensive charts on the disease resistance of different carrot varieties. Although White Satin does not have a spot on the list, I have grown them at Green Meadows several times and they continue to surprise me with their amazing production and ease of growth in a difficult environment.
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/Tables/CarrotTable.html - link to disease resistance of different carrot varieties from Cornell University
If anyone needs assistance with how to grow carrots, setting up an environment conducive for them to do well, or the proper way to space and hill, just let us know.
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Wednesday, August 27, 2014
Disease on Transplants
Many of our new gardeners have asked if we could show them what diseased transplants look like to prevent them from purchasing what may turn into a problem. With so many getting their beds ready for the fall I thought it would make an excellent post for us all.
I did a little recon mission this past weekend (sunglasses and all) and the photo to the right shows "Arcadia" broccoli plants available at a local retailer. I did not put a name to the retailer, as right next to the diseased broccoli was some of the most beautiful red cabbages that would make a wonderful addition to anyone's fall garden.
Several of the broccoli plants pictured show the early stage of disease present. If you blow the photo up it is easy to see the spots located on the lower leaves. A pale colored leaf or one that is solid yellow can be somewhat benign, although not always. Often, it can be signs of something as simple as inappropriate watering practices or a nutrient deficiency. The fix would then be rather easy to take care of by either correcting the watering habits of the plant or fertilizing appropriately. However, when plants have leaves that are off in color and accompanied by spots, it is most often a symptom or sign of disease.
Unfortunately, these plants would require the use of fungicides on an on-going basis much as you have experienced with your tomatoes. The disease is not curable. All parts of a broccoli plant are edible. The stalk, leaves, final head, and any side shoots they produce. Having a plant that is infected with disease early on will reduce the amount you are able to get back out of your garden for the money, time, and effort you have put in. Diseased leaves do not have the eating quality you desire and the disease will spread throughout the garden infecting other plants within that same vegetable family.
Now let us look at this other photo. In the upper left-hand corner, you will see the same cultivar of broccoli growing from a healthy transplant. This photo is from late September of last year. Notice the absence of any yellowing or spots on the leaves. Starting with a healthy transplant reduces the need for fungicides and the eating quality, therefore, is greatly increased. This allows you to get more back out of your garden for the expense and effort put in. In addition, plants that remain healthy are less likely to be attacked by insects or the damage from these pests will most often be insignificant or easily controlled.
These plants were treated with a compost tea solution at planting and then twice per month thereafter. They did not receive or require any additional fertilization. A fungicide was required only three times throughout their growing cycle due to excessive rains causing an outbreak of downy mildew in the garden. After harvesting the central heads, the plants continued to produce side shoots well into April when they were pulled to make way for the next season of growing.
By being able to recognize transplants that have disease already present, we should be able to avoid some of the diseases that come into the garden via this avenue.
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
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Early stage of disease on broccoli transplants! |
Several of the broccoli plants pictured show the early stage of disease present. If you blow the photo up it is easy to see the spots located on the lower leaves. A pale colored leaf or one that is solid yellow can be somewhat benign, although not always. Often, it can be signs of something as simple as inappropriate watering practices or a nutrient deficiency. The fix would then be rather easy to take care of by either correcting the watering habits of the plant or fertilizing appropriately. However, when plants have leaves that are off in color and accompanied by spots, it is most often a symptom or sign of disease.
Unfortunately, these plants would require the use of fungicides on an on-going basis much as you have experienced with your tomatoes. The disease is not curable. All parts of a broccoli plant are edible. The stalk, leaves, final head, and any side shoots they produce. Having a plant that is infected with disease early on will reduce the amount you are able to get back out of your garden for the money, time, and effort you have put in. Diseased leaves do not have the eating quality you desire and the disease will spread throughout the garden infecting other plants within that same vegetable family.
Arcadia Broccoli and Dino Kale! |
These plants were treated with a compost tea solution at planting and then twice per month thereafter. They did not receive or require any additional fertilization. A fungicide was required only three times throughout their growing cycle due to excessive rains causing an outbreak of downy mildew in the garden. After harvesting the central heads, the plants continued to produce side shoots well into April when they were pulled to make way for the next season of growing.
By being able to recognize transplants that have disease already present, we should be able to avoid some of the diseases that come into the garden via this avenue.
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Tuesday, August 12, 2014
Fresh Red Shallots from Louisiana
Hey Everyone,
Amy Gallagher of bed number 12 has been so kind to share some of her dad's red shallots from Louisiana with us. They are located in the shed for our gardeners to enjoy!
Each single bulb will grow into a wonderful clump and the flavor of this strain is simply outstanding..........
I have attached a link from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange that has a very nice planting guide for the allium family of crops. Shallots can go in much earlier to be enjoyed as red onions for the holidays.
http://www.southernexposure.com/growing-guides/allium-guide-web.pdf - link to planting guide from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange.
Thanks so much for sharing Amy!
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Amy Gallagher of bed number 12 has been so kind to share some of her dad's red shallots from Louisiana with us. They are located in the shed for our gardeners to enjoy!
Each single bulb will grow into a wonderful clump and the flavor of this strain is simply outstanding..........
Red Shallots |
http://www.southernexposure.com/growing-guides/allium-guide-web.pdf - link to planting guide from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange.
Thanks so much for sharing Amy!
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Wednesday, August 6, 2014
Whew That Was A Job!
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You guys grow way too much food! I can barely keep up with it all! |
Sometimes
you
need
to just stop
and
photograph
the squirrels!
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Sunday, July 27, 2014
Mystery Eggs on a Tomato Leaf
Here is a photo essay on the development of some mystery eggs that were found on the TOP of a tomato leaf. Luckily before they hatched I put them in a plastic bag because otherwise, I would have had 4 of these critters running around in my house!
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These eggs were a pearly translucent color and very oddly shaped. They weren't spheres, more like half a football or a Viking burial mound. 7/11/14 |
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They have turned an amber color and red marks are appearing on the eggs. 7/14/14 |
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It is fascinating to see how the insects cut out little doors and left the eggs. |
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Leaf-footed bugs. They hatched out on 7/22/14 (in the bag) and when I showed them to Denise on the 23rd they were still alive. But I allowed them to die for a better photo opportunity. |
Vicki - Bed 41
Saturday, July 26, 2014
Is it time to say UNCLE?
Does it seem like you just can't get ahead of a particular bug or disease problem? Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, Say UNCLE! and start over.
1) How infested/diseased/damaged are my plants.
If they are over halfway gone with disease and the season is almost over, rip them out.
Think about the Kenny Rogers song "The Gambler"
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And in Gardener words, when to rip them out and plant again....
You want to be Proactive instead of reactive!
Depending on what your problem was, there are some easy changes that should make your next planting more successful.
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Boo hoo...the tomatoes are goners. |
It is hard to call it quits on plants you've spent so much time and effort taking care of - all that watering, fertilizing, spraying etc. It doesn't seem right to just give up and rip them out.
But to prevent residual disease and insect problems as well as interrupt the disease/bug cycle, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, say UNCLE and rip out some of your plants.
In the home garden it is much easier to put off crying uncle because what you do only affects yourself. In a Community Garden what you do (or don't do) affects everyone else and their success.
There are many reasons why your plants are looking sad and pitiful - weather (too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry), lack of disease resistance in your plants, heavy insect attack, lack of fertilization, not spraying to knock back disease and bugs.
To help you decide, realistically, whether your plants have a chance if you step up and give them a bunch of TLC, ask yourself these questions:
1) How infested/diseased/damaged are my plants.
If they are over halfway gone with disease and the season is almost over, rip them out.
How many insect pests are on your plants - look for adults, larva and eggs. Tons? Do you really want to get into the game of coming out every single day and pulling them all off and looking on the backs of every single leaf every single day?
2) What is the weather going to be like for the next 2 weeks? Are you going to be able to spray and have it stick? Or will you be constantly re-spraying.
3) How long before you would most likely be ripping out that plant and working on the soil for the next season's crops?
4) Realistically, how much time do I have and how much effort do I want to expend to fight off whatever my plants problem is.
Think about the Kenny Rogers song "The Gambler"
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And in Gardener words, when to rip them out and plant again....
You want to be Proactive instead of reactive!
Depending on what your problem was, there are some easy changes that should make your next planting more successful.
Spacing - putting fewer plants in so you have better airflow and access to all parts of the plants. This way when you spray for disease, the spray gets to all parts of the plant, not just the outside and top of your mass of plants.
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June 19, 2012. The tomatoes eventually took over half the bed. Way too thick! |
Proper spacing means you can also reach all parts of the plant to check for insect pests and can reach and kill those pests.
Defending against disease and insects - treating for bugs or disease is not a one shot thing. You have to constantly watch, check and retreat with the proper spray when necessary. You need to be able to come out and check on your plants every 2 to 3 days. It is amazing how fast a problem will zoom out of control in just 3 days.
In a community garden you will have more disease and bug problems to contend with versus in a home garden. More plants, more opportunities. Therefore you have to continually "defend/protect" your plants.
Reduced airflow creates a perfect climate for disease to flourish. It also prevents fungal sprays from getting to all parts and surfaces of a the plant.
If you grow a solid block of tomatoes, beans, cucumbers, etc you can get the outer edges easily but not the middle. When you have a solid mass of plants there is no way you can see inside to check and remove bugs/eggs so again you get behind.
Increase Airflow -
Remove leaves repeatedly to increase airflow and ability to take care of plants. You don't have to denude the plant, just thin some of the leaves out from time to time.
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There were 5 tomatoes planted in this bed on April29, 2012. They became a HUGE mass of diseased vegetation by the end of July 2012. No airflow |
Make a garden plan - you don't have to stick to it but if you make a plan it does increase your chances of success. Spending 5, 10 or 15 minutes at the beginning of EACH planting season, planning out where your plants are going will actually save you hours of work in the long run.
Plant only half your bed in plants with heavy foliage so you can get to all sides. Just by reconfiguring your plantings you will increase your success greatly.
Remembering to think about each plants full, mature size makes a world of difference!
Vicki - Bed 41
Vicki - Bed 41
Thursday, July 24, 2014
Is there a bird in the shed?
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Wrens are famous for going where you do NOT want them. |
The first thing to do is Don't Panic!! The poor bird just wants OUT but has become confused and can't find its way out.
I've dealt with birds in all these situations and the solution is the same every time. It isn't always a quick process but it always works.
Provide an opening for the bird to fly out and herd it there. Birds (as well as all wild animals) have a fear circle. You want to get on the other side of the bird's fear circle and to make it fly away from you. No need to actually swat with a broom. If you do need to use a broom to get the bird to fly down, just put it behind the bird and make a gentle motion.

1) Turn the lights out
2) Open the door as wide as possible
3) Get on the other side of the bird and
ZOOM! it will fly out the opening with light
If the bird is on a screened porch or inside the netting over your blueberries:
1) Open the door on the porch wide. Or create an opening in the netting over the blueberries.
2) Get on the other side of the bird.
3) Encourage the bird to go out.
ZOOM! it will fly out the opening
Now I will admit it is much trickier getting a bird out of the blueberry enclosure than it is getting it out of the porch, shed or garage but it can be done with no harm caused to the bird besides panic because it was trapped.
Good luck if you find yourself in this situation!
Vicki - Bed 41
Tuesday, July 22, 2014
Don't Give Up on Your Fig!
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Recovered Celeste fig - 7/22/14 |
See that greenery at the base of the dead fig stick? This picture taken today, July 22nd, proves that patience aka procrastination pays off. I'm sure the neighbors have wondered all summer why I'm growing a stick in my front yard. Today, I was going to replace it with a gifted butterfly bush and, lo and behold, I found that it's recovered from the cold spells of our 2014 winter. Do you recall the single digit night?
The more protected fig in my back yard sent up new shoots from the base last spring and is now taller than 5 feet. No fruit, regretfully, but there's always next year.
The figs in the Green Meadows Preserve Orchard have all recovered except for one. But a bed check tomorrow might find it alive and kicking, too. Hope so!
Spotlight on Something Unique - Chinese Red Noodle Beans
Many may remember some of the interesting vegetables we grew last summer and how we toured the garden via the blog spotlighting on those that were unique with our posts. It was such a nice way to learn about some extraordinary performers and I thought it might be nice to add to our list.
Our first addition is rich in history and comes to us from southern China! Vann, of Bed 33, not only has the healthiest looking bean plants in the garden but some of the most beautiful to stroll by and take a gander. Chinese Red Noodle beans are an heirloom variety that is very common to the southern regions of China. It first came to the America's via Chinese immigrants who were here working on the transcontinental railroads during the 1800's.
Heat tolerant and vigorous are just two of many attributes that come to mind when describing this wonderful pole bean variety. On observation, it seems as if to take its time setting pods but the wait appears to be well worth the time spent. Once it gets started, the plants are continuously producing pods of the highest quality, which would earn it the rank of an outstanding performer in any gardener's journal. As an added bonus, this cultivar is highly resistant to the Mexican bean beetle that tends to plague our community garden each year. To date, the plants have not required the need for a fungicide or pesticide treatment to remain healthy.
The distinctive purple-red color brings such plate appeal for something unique in the kitchen as the beans will lose their color when cooked but retain it when sauteed or stir-fried. They can also be used in any dish that calls for string beans and according to what I have read they lend a wonderful almost nutty flavor to most soups. For the peak of flavor, it is best to pick the pods before they reach twenty-two inches in length. Longer lengths will still be edible, however, the flavor tends to fall off and the beans will not be as tender.
In sampling, I stir-fried with freshly pulled garlic and peanut oil and served with some toasted sesame seeds. The flavor was mild and pleasant with the slightest hint of a mushroom taste. Although others who have tried say the beans are delicious, they do not taste the hint of mushroom within the flavor. So I guess that boils down to having sensitive taste buds, maybe the garlic variety chosen for the dish (grown with the addition of mushroom compost), or being completely off my rocker, you be the judge, grin!
Several years ago, the Chinese Red Noodle beans as well as several other distinctive varieties were part of a trial performed by the Master Gardener's in Santa Clara County. Chinese Red Noodle performed very well in the trial and was a favorite for those desiring a rich bean flavor. The link is below for your convenience as several of the varieties trialed would be worthy of growing within our garden.
https://mastergardeners.org/long-bean-trial-2007 - link to the long bean trial performed by Master Gardeners
For those who may be interested in trying their hand at growing these wonderful beans the links are below for your convenience to a couple excellent seed companies that carry them. In addition, I have also placed the link to the other "Spotlight on Something Unique" articles that show standout performers within the garden.
https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=968409830075347530#allposts - key in spotlight on something unique in the search bar located in the upper right-hand corner
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Chinese Red Noodle Beans grown by Vann Gaskin of Bed 33 |
Heat tolerant and vigorous are just two of many attributes that come to mind when describing this wonderful pole bean variety. On observation, it seems as if to take its time setting pods but the wait appears to be well worth the time spent. Once it gets started, the plants are continuously producing pods of the highest quality, which would earn it the rank of an outstanding performer in any gardener's journal. As an added bonus, this cultivar is highly resistant to the Mexican bean beetle that tends to plague our community garden each year. To date, the plants have not required the need for a fungicide or pesticide treatment to remain healthy.
The distinctive purple-red color brings such plate appeal for something unique in the kitchen as the beans will lose their color when cooked but retain it when sauteed or stir-fried. They can also be used in any dish that calls for string beans and according to what I have read they lend a wonderful almost nutty flavor to most soups. For the peak of flavor, it is best to pick the pods before they reach twenty-two inches in length. Longer lengths will still be edible, however, the flavor tends to fall off and the beans will not be as tender.
Several years ago, the Chinese Red Noodle beans as well as several other distinctive varieties were part of a trial performed by the Master Gardener's in Santa Clara County. Chinese Red Noodle performed very well in the trial and was a favorite for those desiring a rich bean flavor. The link is below for your convenience as several of the varieties trialed would be worthy of growing within our garden.
https://mastergardeners.org/long-bean-trial-2007 - link to the long bean trial performed by Master Gardeners
Green Meadows Healthy Garden Tip:
Choosing varieties that offer resistance to the common diseases and pests issues we face goes a long way in lessening your dependence on the use of fungicides and pesticides. Chinese Red Noodle beans are a perfect example of an heirloom variety having a natural resistance to the Mexican bean beetle. Many of the yard-long beans offer the same tolerance or resistance to these terrible pests. It's just a matter of choosing your varieties carefully and making their environment conducive for the plants to do well. Vann has showed us a perfect example of tilting the odds in her favor for a healthy and productive garden by using carefully chosen cultivars. Kudo's Vann! If there were a bean award, we would need to give you "Best in Show!"
http://www.rareseeds.com/chinese-red-noodle-bean/ - link to Baker Creek Seed Company
http://www.southernexposure.com/chinese-red-noodle-asparagus-yardlong-yard-long-bean-4g-p-1064.html - link to Southern Exposure Seed Exchange
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Tuesday, July 15, 2014
Gardeners' Night Out - Fall 2014
An evening series of monthly programs on gardening sponsored by the Master Gardener Volunteers of Cobb County
August 12th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“The Annual Sequence of Blooms Beloved by Worker Honeybees”
with Rita Buehner, Master Gardener
East Cobb Regional Library
(Old Parkaire Mall Site)
4880 Lower Roswell Road
Marietta, GA 30068
September 9th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“All about Bluebirds and More”
with Jim Bearden, Master Gardener
West Cobb Regional Library
1750 Dennis Kemp Lane NW
Kennesaw, GA 30152
October 14th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“Trees of Our Lives: Small Native Trees for the Landscape”
with Dawn Hines, Master Gardener
South Cobb Regional Library
805 Clay Road
Mableton, GA 30126
November 11th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“Adaptive Gardening -- How to Keep Gardening on your Lifetime Can Do list “
with Joe Washington, Master Gardener
Mountain View Regional Library
3320 Sandy Plains Road
Marietta, GA 30066
The mission of the Master Gardener Volunteers of Cobb County is to advance the horticultural education and practices of its members and to promote the knowledge of and interest in gardening to the members and to the public.

“The Annual Sequence of Blooms Beloved by Worker Honeybees”
with Rita Buehner, Master Gardener
East Cobb Regional Library
(Old Parkaire Mall Site)
4880 Lower Roswell Road
Marietta, GA 30068
September 9th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“All about Bluebirds and More”
with Jim Bearden, Master Gardener
West Cobb Regional Library
1750 Dennis Kemp Lane NW
Kennesaw, GA 30152
October 14th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“Trees of Our Lives: Small Native Trees for the Landscape”
with Dawn Hines, Master Gardener
South Cobb Regional Library
805 Clay Road
Mableton, GA 30126
November 11th (Tuesday) 7:00 - 8:00 pm
“Adaptive Gardening -- How to Keep Gardening on your Lifetime Can Do list “
with Joe Washington, Master Gardener
Mountain View Regional Library
3320 Sandy Plains Road
Marietta, GA 30066
The mission of the Master Gardener Volunteers of Cobb County is to advance the horticultural education and practices of its members and to promote the knowledge of and interest in gardening to the members and to the public.
Sunday, July 13, 2014
Winter Gardening Means Mid-Summer Planning & Planting
The garden is in full swing, beans, cucumbers, and squash out the ears, plants loaded with tomatoes, and peppers well on their way to all developing nicely. Many are asking what they can plant now for the small areas of real estate still available in their garden. A second round of many of the summer vegetables is always a possibility; however, I tend to turn my attention to the fall garden..........................
I have been pushing parsnips lately as if they were a new drug in town to cure the wintertime blues, due only to the length of time they take to produce a healthy crop. Several varieties of this carrot family relative can take 16 weeks or more to mature.
Parsnips have never graced my garden in the past and in speaking with some "ole-timers", they insist the flavor is sweeter than carrots in winter soups and stews. We shall see about that one! According to Wikipedia, they are rich in history and during Roman times, they were actually considered an aphrodisiac. We shall see about that one as well, grin!
All of your broccoli's, brussels, cabbages, cauliflowers, etc. benefit from being transplanted into the garden between 4 and 6 weeks of age. The proper time for sowing these seeds indoors is now for those who want to grow their fall garden for pennies on the dollar. Beets, carrots, parsnips, and such do better directly sown and may go in as early as the end of July for those who want to be harvesting by Christmas dinner.
Burpee has a nice link where you key in the zip code for our growing area and the chart comes up for what to start and when. In addition, I really like the links to the sowing guides from Botanical Interests, as these are quality seeds available locally at Pike's.
http://www.burpee.com/gygg/growingCalendarWithZipCode.jsp?catid=1000&_requestid=103634 - link to the growing calendar at Burpee Seed Company
https://botanicalinterests.com/img/site_specific/uploads/LateSummFallSowingGuide.pdf - link to the late summer and fall sowing guide for vegetables, herbs, and flowers from Botanical Interests
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Broccoli improves with flavor when kissed by frost! |
Parsnips have never graced my garden in the past and in speaking with some "ole-timers", they insist the flavor is sweeter than carrots in winter soups and stews. We shall see about that one! According to Wikipedia, they are rich in history and during Roman times, they were actually considered an aphrodisiac. We shall see about that one as well, grin!
All of your broccoli's, brussels, cabbages, cauliflowers, etc. benefit from being transplanted into the garden between 4 and 6 weeks of age. The proper time for sowing these seeds indoors is now for those who want to grow their fall garden for pennies on the dollar. Beets, carrots, parsnips, and such do better directly sown and may go in as early as the end of July for those who want to be harvesting by Christmas dinner.
Burpee has a nice link where you key in the zip code for our growing area and the chart comes up for what to start and when. In addition, I really like the links to the sowing guides from Botanical Interests, as these are quality seeds available locally at Pike's.
http://www.burpee.com/gygg/growingCalendarWithZipCode.jsp?catid=1000&_requestid=103634 - link to the growing calendar at Burpee Seed Company
https://botanicalinterests.com/img/site_specific/uploads/LateSummFallSowingGuide.pdf - link to the late summer and fall sowing guide for vegetables, herbs, and flowers from Botanical Interests
Green Meadows Healthy Garden Tip:
To get the most out of the fall vegetable crops, look for varieties that are resistant to the common diseases and insects we experience in the garden. For example, Southern Exposure Seed Company carries the Green Glaze Collards that have excellent resistance to the cabbage looper and the cabbage worm. They also carry the Dwarf Blue Vates Kale that resists yellowing of the leaves due to cold temperatures when winters are more severe than expected. Anything that can offer resistance to downy mildew is a plus since we find that disease rather common. Tilting the odds in your favor dramatically increases the success of a healthy vegetable garden with less dependence on the use of fungicides and pesticides. This is especially important with the fall greens, as they tend to absorb what you spray.
One of the most comprehensive links for finding varieties that are resistant to many of the common vegetable diseases is at Cornell University. I have placed that link here as well for your convenience.
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/Tables/TableList.htm - link to chart at Cornell for resistant varieties
One of the most comprehensive links for finding varieties that are resistant to many of the common vegetable diseases is at Cornell University. I have placed that link here as well for your convenience.
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/Tables/TableList.htm - link to chart at Cornell for resistant varieties
Happy Gardening,
Denise, Beds 25 & 29
Friday, July 11, 2014
Lunch & Learn Series - Fall 2014
Lunch & Learn 2014
A MGVOCC Educational Program
FREE & OPEN
to the PUBLIC
Bring your lunch & enjoy an hour-long presentation
on a plant/garden-related subject.
Noon to 1:00 PM
County Water Lab 660 S. Cobb Drive & Atlanta Road.
Schedule
and directions at: http://www.cobbmastergardeners.com
August 8,2014: "Weed ID for Weed Control" Presented by Cornelius Tarver, Urban
Agriculture and National Resources Agent
Tired
of fighting weeds? The challenge we face
is all of them cannot be controlled the same way. Neil will help us identify weeds in order to
select the most effective method to control them.
Sept.12,2014: "The Joy of Bluebirds" All
about Bluebirds and More Presented by James
Bearden
Jim's
presentation includes the life of the Eastern Bluebird, including a Bluebird
Trail and Nest Box Management; other birds that nest in cavities of bluebird
boxes, and more!
October 10, 2014: "Landscaping
and Septic Tanks: What Homeowners Need to Know" Presented by Cornelius Tarver
A
Discussion of septic tank maintenance and
it's relation to your landscape.

November 14, 2014: "Bonsai" Presented by Michael Stoddard, Board of Directors, Atlanta Bonsai Society
Bonsai,
an ancient art which originated in China and developed in Japan, means "to
plant in a shallow dish". Mike, a
long-time student of this art, will bring his
bonsai to show us how to plant, prune and care for our own.
Cobb County Cooperative Extension
678 South Cobb Drive, Suite
20, Marietta, GA 30060-3105 Phone:
770-528-4070
Thursday, July 10, 2014
Horticulture Day at the Garden
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Heading out to walk the Blue Bird Trail |
There was something for everyone either in the garden or outside the garden. Approximately 26 people went on the Blue Bird Trail walk with Jim.
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Off to visit the bee yard! |
Thank you to Vann & Dalita for coming out Tuesday morning and talking to our visitors. Especially for spending so much time out in the sun where the plants were!
Many thanks to Heidi for the Herb and Vertical Gardening handouts made available on our table. And to Carol and Vicki for helping during the event.
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Just one of the tables full of information visitors could take away. |
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Fritillary caterpillar. They look vicious but this particular caterpillar is harmless. The spines are actually soft. |
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The bee exhibit was fantastic. It was fascinating learning how the honey extractor works. |
Rocks were easy to find but where to find the radish pods and tomatillos really stumped the searchers. As did the caterpillar on the list! Luckily for us, they are always on the passion vine (may pop) so are easy to find.
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Vicki and Rita |
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Mike, the Bee Man |
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Jack and Louise |
Photos by Renae, Mike and Vicki
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